Elmo Muck isn't a "visionary." He's a rich punk from South Africa who used his dodgy family's dodgy fortune made in Blood Diamonds and Conflict Germs from the Afrikaner Wars in southern Africa, to BUY the ideas of the people who are the ACTUAL VISIONARIES, then steal the credit. He isn't the "Chief Engineer" of anything, and the behavior discussed in this post is proof he's a fucking moron. He's also an illegal immigrant who never graduated from any school - his "degrees" are phony - who worked illegally while here on a student visa; his citizenship is based on a lie and should be revoked. Then stuff him in one of his tinny toy cars that only work 75% of the time, stick that in one of his rockets, and fire it into the sun.
I didn't read all of that - too long - but I read enough to learn that Elon Musk is every bit the phony grifter that Donald Trump is. In fact, and I wouldn't have thought this possible, he's much worse.
Trump has always been a grifter. And the other grifters are joining him.... they want the racketeering rights he secured over the evangelicals.... They are also patsies who are blinded by scam artists like Copeland, Hinn, Osteen, Swaggart. And these schemes really took off in the early 20th C, with Ms McPherson...
Thank you for that link it was very informative reading. I shared it with all of my Facebook groups and it will spread like wildfire after they read it. Thanks again.
Or to Mars, he's obsessed with Mars. Let him "colonize" it with a couple of women and create the white world he wants. Complete with personality disorders.
Given that Mars has no atmospheric protection against solar rays, we can send Muck and his harem, secure in the knowledge they won't survive their first year of colonization.
I'm with ya, there. Great essay by Talking Feds, but please never put Navalny in a sentence with....that. A true hero with dedication, humor, brilliance and GUTS to spare cannot be mentioned in the same paragraph or fukkin universe with the pathetic little whining nazi sympathizer of doge-magat-landia.
Well said .....this is one of the best posts I've read...I almost fell off my chair I'm laughing so hard...You hit the nail on the head....All your observations about this Freakazoid are absolutely correct....Muskrat & tRump both need to be deported...one to Mars the other to Panama.
The Big Lie is not that the 2020 election was rigged (and the 2024 somehow not), the real Big Lie is Trump himself. Not a good business man - a failure, in fact - not truthful, not intelligent, not beloved. A petty man whose life is lies and guff and grievances . A man who doesn’t keep his promises and doesn’t pay his bills.
Mom didn’t know what to do with ‘Lil Donnie. She shoves him off to dad who sends him military school. Fakes his way thru that and Wharton. Roy Cohn schools him in how to be a shithead and off he goes with daddy’s money.
He’s a bully because he’s stupid, literally - vacuous between the ears. It’s evident in his command of English. I thought it was equivalent to a 6th Grader. Linguists have analyzed his public speaking. It’s 4th Grader level.
I'm deaf so I don't actually "listen" to the news but I do read the closed captions. Closed captions are notoriously unreliable and sometimes need to be mentally sorted out in order to make any sense at all. Double Whammy as far as Trump is concerned. (Seminal and Seminole make a regular appearance. Not that Trump uses seminal for anything. Too many syllables, I guess.) End result: A lot of chores get done when he shows up. I have other puzzles to play with than the Trump/CC combo.
The Big Lie was that the 2016 election wasn't stolen., even though we all knew it was. We all know that this last one was "compromised", and it changed the trajectory of what we once knew of our country. Bye-bye land that I loved.
Always the reminder that musk purchased most of his companies 🙄 and undervalues his employees at every single one. I knew a guy at space x who was the most senior in his dept and he’d only been there 18 months— musk just burns and turns his employees like they’re not people
What are the symptoms of high functioning Asperger's?
High-functioning autism, also known as autism spectrum disorder (ASD) without intellectual or language impairment, can cause a range of symptoms, including:
Social interaction
Difficulty understanding social norms, making eye contact, and initiating or maintaining conversations
Communication
Difficulty understanding sarcasm, irony, or figurative language, and speaking in a formal or monotone manner
Repetitive behaviors
Engaging in repetitive behaviors or having intense interests in specific topics
Sensory sensitivities
Sensitivity to sensory stimuli such as loud noises, bright lights, or certain textures
Routine
Difficulty adapting to changes in routine or environment
Intelligence
Above-average intelligence or special interests
Fine motor activities
Difficulty with fine motor activities (such as writing with pencils or pens)
Anxiety and depression
Many adults with autism spectrum disorder develop anxiety and depression as they struggle to understand others and fit in.
It’s far more likely that he is a toxic narcissist sociopath, like the orange thing. Chalking this behavior up to Asperger’s does a huge disservice to folks on the spectrum.
Possible to have both. Need to know whether it's conrolled by medication or therapy. Late Bloomer below says he has a Ketamine addiction. He was using marijuana (or something harder) in public several times.
Add to that the purported Ketamine addiction and you have the mess of Musk in front of us. And as a former mental health therapist, I agree with your assessment of how he presents.
I have most of these. Some I am opposite. But cigarette smoke, bad grammar, and pop music all give me headaches, fads irritate me immensely. I startle easily and can't stand yelling.
And by the way, Black slaves and Chinese immigrants, among others, built a LOT of this country! European immigrants are not solely responsible for the development of the United States!
People have been indoctrinated by Republican propaganda and are blind to the truth. Republicans, politicians and corporate Republicans, have been dishing out lies and propaganda long before MAGA. MAGA grew up in families listening to their parents repeat the lies and propaganda they heard from people like Limbaugh.
Whew. I think you are right, for the most part, but I see JD Vance waiting like a spider in a corner for the tech-bros to see Trump 25th Amendmeted. The more the factions fight, the weaker Trump appears, and it seems to be part of an underlying plan.
Oh, sorry to point this out, because you are an excellent wordsmith, either have someone proof your pieces, learn to use the space bar, or turn on spell-check! Just sayin'.
I don't think they'll need the 25th Amendment. All they have to do is set him up in the dining room with KFC and a TV, keep him occupied, and give him bills to sign, and they get everything they want. It also makes it so Vance can have a full eight years as president.
I agree with you. Going through the process of pushing through the 25th amendment takes a lot of time work and effort. Setting him up in the little dining room where he watched the insurrection on January 6, 2020 with all the food he wants sounds like the perfect solutionfor JD Vance.
doesn't matter if there is a glitch. my first book's Word compress didn't hold and it had been professionally edited. all the typos that had been fixed became "unfixed"
Whatever it is - Substack glitch or unedited text - would help to get it fixed. Errors such as these distract from great and well thought out content like this.
Musk isn’t a damn “inventor”. He’s not a visionary. He’s a rich, South African apartheid asshole who BOUGHT EXISTING companies. I stg, just like Trump, people reporting on Musk are just defiantly ignoring the truth about what a trash bag he is.
Two points must be emphasized here: 1.) there will be an inevitable clash between Musk's ideology-libertarian, laissez faire except for his government contracts- and Trump, who is a right wing populist who makes impossible promises about lowering inflation, creating jobs, and controlling the culture. Musk opposes tariffs, favors immigration because he knows so many industries need it, and is a bigot. Trump loves tariffs and hates immigrants and is also a bigot. Shared bigotry won't be enough to keep the wheels on the Musk-Trump bus. 2.) Elon Musk is a horse's ass, just a very rich and powerful horse's ass, leaving open the possibility that anything could happen with these two. Most likely, they split not-so-amicably.
Elon is addicted to Ketamine ( horse tranquilizer ). He does other drugs too. He has a personality disorder, and I’m sure, in his mind, he thinks such drugs help him be more extroverted. The over-drug-use is making him in to a sociopath IMO. Birds of a feather flock together Frick & Frack = Elon & Donald = BFF s forever.
As rfk jr explained how much better he could study after taking heroin. Nice for a future head of ALL the health services of this country to be publicly saying.
People like Elon and Don junior do go to a rehab but the doctors are not doctors and they're released after a good week of rest in a padded room. Trump only sends his best people there. The rest are thrown out a 9th floor window.
I virtually never support anything Trump or Musk do, but in this case I support the use of the HB-1 visas and I’ll tell you why. I am not a dumb guy. I have two degrees. When I was in a very advanced class that required extensive math skills (at math I am very good), I was blown out of the water by by two Chinese and one Indian by the speed at which they arrived at correct answers. The following statement is not politically correct, but it is true. I was the smartest white guy in the classroom. I did arrive at the correct answers but not as swiftly as these three. That was back in the ‘80s and I believe the primary and secondary education in our country is not nearly as well-rounded or effective as it was then. If we have the opportunity to place people with these visas in positions requiring these high skills, we cannot afford to pass them by and retain our current status.
I had the opposite experience. In my tech world savvy US side people were replaced by less competent people from southeast Asia. One reason: cheap to do.
I sympathize with you. I think the use of the visas should be dependent upon the industry and the ability to find and employ qualified people. I should have made that point in my post. My background is in medicine and there are positions within the vast array of disciplines of medicine where it is hard to attract qualified applicants within the American pool. I don’t think the tech industry as a whole fits that hardship so limits on types and disciplines should be considered.
Your personal experience is statistically irrelevant and a vast overgeneralization. I do agree that US public education desperately needs an overhaul. We are not graduating people with the knowledge or skills they need to be successful.
Elmo Muck isn't a "visionary." He's a rich punk from South Africa who used his dodgy family's dodgy fortune made in Blood Diamonds and Conflict Germs from the Afrikaner Wars in southern Africa, to BUY the ideas of the people who are the ACTUAL VISIONARIES, then steal the credit. He isn't the "Chief Engineer" of anything, and the behavior discussed in this post is proof he's a fucking moron. He's also an illegal immigrant who never graduated from any school - his "degrees" are phony - who worked illegally while here on a student visa; his citizenship is based on a lie and should be revoked. Then stuff him in one of his tinny toy cars that only work 75% of the time, stick that in one of his rockets, and fire it into the sun.
Correct. NOT a visionary. Also emigrated here illegally. Here's the documentation: https://open.substack.com/pub/sethabramson/p/the-truth-about-musk-from-his-biographer?r=fcfxc&utm_medium=ios
I didn't read all of that - too long - but I read enough to learn that Elon Musk is every bit the phony grifter that Donald Trump is. In fact, and I wouldn't have thought this possible, he's much worse.
The more you read the worse he looks. I'd recommend that you subscribe to Proof.
Trump has always been a grifter. And the other grifters are joining him.... they want the racketeering rights he secured over the evangelicals.... They are also patsies who are blinded by scam artists like Copeland, Hinn, Osteen, Swaggart. And these schemes really took off in the early 20th C, with Ms McPherson...
Thank you for that link it was very informative reading. I shared it with all of my Facebook groups and it will spread like wildfire after they read it. Thanks again.
A variation of your last sentence got me a finger-wag and a time out on Xitter a while back. The manbaby is as thin-skinned as his new sidekick.
I think that's now pronounced "Shitter".
Oh, I definitely call it Shitter out loud, but people think I'm talking about an actual shitter. And then I go "well...yeah... pretty much!"
I'd take that as a public honor.
I totes did!
Ain’t it nice to be smart? Their trash dont fly!
I like the way you think!
🎯🎯🎯🎯
Or, stuff him in one of his "tinny toy cars" and put it onto "auto-drive." Let it explode or crash like most of the others did.
Send them both to explore the solar interior
I like that!
Or to Mars, he's obsessed with Mars. Let him "colonize" it with a couple of women and create the white world he wants. Complete with personality disorders.
Given that Mars has no atmospheric protection against solar rays, we can send Muck and his harem, secure in the knowledge they won't survive their first year of colonization.
Bravo, TC!
Also seems to like substances that many consider reality distorting drugs ... https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1
I'm with ya, there. Great essay by Talking Feds, but please never put Navalny in a sentence with....that. A true hero with dedication, humor, brilliance and GUTS to spare cannot be mentioned in the same paragraph or fukkin universe with the pathetic little whining nazi sympathizer of doge-magat-landia.
YES. I came to say exactly the same thing, and you said it best. He's nothing but a preening phony, and a moron.
Well said .....this is one of the best posts I've read...I almost fell off my chair I'm laughing so hard...You hit the nail on the head....All your observations about this Freakazoid are absolutely correct....Muskrat & tRump both need to be deported...one to Mars the other to Panama.
Preach! A rejoice you’re not him.
Exactly
The Big Lie is not that the 2020 election was rigged (and the 2024 somehow not), the real Big Lie is Trump himself. Not a good business man - a failure, in fact - not truthful, not intelligent, not beloved. A petty man whose life is lies and guff and grievances . A man who doesn’t keep his promises and doesn’t pay his bills.
All of humanity’s worst rolled up into one person.
An achievement in itself? Perhaps in the halls of infamy.
Mom didn’t know what to do with ‘Lil Donnie. She shoves him off to dad who sends him military school. Fakes his way thru that and Wharton. Roy Cohn schools him in how to be a shithead and off he goes with daddy’s money.
He’s a bully because he’s stupid, literally - vacuous between the ears. It’s evident in his command of English. I thought it was equivalent to a 6th Grader. Linguists have analyzed his public speaking. It’s 4th Grader level.
I'm deaf so I don't actually "listen" to the news but I do read the closed captions. Closed captions are notoriously unreliable and sometimes need to be mentally sorted out in order to make any sense at all. Double Whammy as far as Trump is concerned. (Seminal and Seminole make a regular appearance. Not that Trump uses seminal for anything. Too many syllables, I guess.) End result: A lot of chores get done when he shows up. I have other puzzles to play with than the Trump/CC combo.
I, too, need captions. Fortunately, when Trump speaks captions are unnecessary—when the face appears empty of though, so are the words.
The Big Lie was that the 2016 election wasn't stolen., even though we all knew it was. We all know that this last one was "compromised", and it changed the trajectory of what we once knew of our country. Bye-bye land that I loved.
And the 2024 election, stolen? Why didn’t those wily Dems steal it again? An unexplained mystery.
Spot on!! 👍💯
Always the reminder that musk purchased most of his companies 🙄 and undervalues his employees at every single one. I knew a guy at space x who was the most senior in his dept and he’d only been there 18 months— musk just burns and turns his employees like they’re not people
Again, Musk has created nothing … he just buys the creators.
May be a function of Aspergers. https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome
What are the symptoms of high functioning Asperger's?
High-functioning autism, also known as autism spectrum disorder (ASD) without intellectual or language impairment, can cause a range of symptoms, including:
Social interaction
Difficulty understanding social norms, making eye contact, and initiating or maintaining conversations
Communication
Difficulty understanding sarcasm, irony, or figurative language, and speaking in a formal or monotone manner
Repetitive behaviors
Engaging in repetitive behaviors or having intense interests in specific topics
Sensory sensitivities
Sensitivity to sensory stimuli such as loud noises, bright lights, or certain textures
Routine
Difficulty adapting to changes in routine or environment
Intelligence
Above-average intelligence or special interests
Fine motor activities
Difficulty with fine motor activities (such as writing with pencils or pens)
Anxiety and depression
Many adults with autism spectrum disorder develop anxiety and depression as they struggle to understand others and fit in.
It’s far more likely that he is a toxic narcissist sociopath, like the orange thing. Chalking this behavior up to Asperger’s does a huge disservice to folks on the spectrum.
Possible to have both. Need to know whether it's conrolled by medication or therapy. Late Bloomer below says he has a Ketamine addiction. He was using marijuana (or something harder) in public several times.
Add to that the purported Ketamine addiction and you have the mess of Musk in front of us. And as a former mental health therapist, I agree with your assessment of how he presents.
Yep. Pretty much!
I have most of these. Some I am opposite. But cigarette smoke, bad grammar, and pop music all give me headaches, fads irritate me immensely. I startle easily and can't stand yelling.
Sociopaths gotta sociopath.
Pump and dump in reverse? Dump and pump?
Welcome to the brave new world, children.
He’s lucky India has a lot of people.
Plz don't compare Musk to Navalny in any way.
Better yet, don’t compare ANYONE in trmp’s orbit to Alexei Navalny. Navalny and Carter, yes.
Same reaction
Musk is a vulgar, crude man. Ditto Trump.
Vulgar really is the best word.
By Laura looney’s thinking. We are all 3rd world invaders. Ask the Native Americans.
And by the way, Black slaves and Chinese immigrants, among others, built a LOT of this country! European immigrants are not solely responsible for the development of the United States!
Capitalism is built on cheap labor (and exploitation generally). This doesn't seem to be widely understood. I don't know why.
The audacity to speak any of this bullshit on STOLEN LAND
The republican party has been "fucking America in the face" for quite a few years now. I noticed it first with Nixon.
Apparently we like it?
(not me, personally)
People have been indoctrinated by Republican propaganda and are blind to the truth. Republicans, politicians and corporate Republicans, have been dishing out lies and propaganda long before MAGA. MAGA grew up in families listening to their parents repeat the lies and propaganda they heard from people like Limbaugh.
Whew. I think you are right, for the most part, but I see JD Vance waiting like a spider in a corner for the tech-bros to see Trump 25th Amendmeted. The more the factions fight, the weaker Trump appears, and it seems to be part of an underlying plan.
Oh, sorry to point this out, because you are an excellent wordsmith, either have someone proof your pieces, learn to use the space bar, or turn on spell-check! Just sayin'.
I don't think they'll need the 25th Amendment. All they have to do is set him up in the dining room with KFC and a TV, keep him occupied, and give him bills to sign, and they get everything they want. It also makes it so Vance can have a full eight years as president.
I agree with you. Going through the process of pushing through the 25th amendment takes a lot of time work and effort. Setting him up in the little dining room where he watched the insurrection on January 6, 2020 with all the food he wants sounds like the perfect solutionfor JD Vance.
i saw those typos too but I see the same all over Substack newsletters. Looks like a glitch in the software to me.
Agreed. Though some Substack writers employ copy editors.
doesn't matter if there is a glitch. my first book's Word compress didn't hold and it had been professionally edited. all the typos that had been fixed became "unfixed"
Whatever it is - Substack glitch or unedited text - would help to get it fixed. Errors such as these distract from great and well thought out content like this.
I had the same comment as my brain had to keep stopping to change the words and/or put spaces between words.
Otherwise, great article.
Recent piece by Timothy Snyder stunningly full of errors. Painful to read.
Musk isn’t a damn “inventor”. He’s not a visionary. He’s a rich, South African apartheid asshole who BOUGHT EXISTING companies. I stg, just like Trump, people reporting on Musk are just defiantly ignoring the truth about what a trash bag he is.
Two points must be emphasized here: 1.) there will be an inevitable clash between Musk's ideology-libertarian, laissez faire except for his government contracts- and Trump, who is a right wing populist who makes impossible promises about lowering inflation, creating jobs, and controlling the culture. Musk opposes tariffs, favors immigration because he knows so many industries need it, and is a bigot. Trump loves tariffs and hates immigrants and is also a bigot. Shared bigotry won't be enough to keep the wheels on the Musk-Trump bus. 2.) Elon Musk is a horse's ass, just a very rich and powerful horse's ass, leaving open the possibility that anything could happen with these two. Most likely, they split not-so-amicably.
Let's hope they don't attempt to use atomic weapons on each other.
I suspect Trump isn't cognizant enough to be much of an opponent. Plus, Leon purchased him.
I’m referring to the drama as another “trumpster fire”….f.elon and his felon….
Elon is addicted to Ketamine ( horse tranquilizer ). He does other drugs too. He has a personality disorder, and I’m sure, in his mind, he thinks such drugs help him be more extroverted. The over-drug-use is making him in to a sociopath IMO. Birds of a feather flock together Frick & Frack = Elon & Donald = BFF s forever.
As rfk jr explained how much better he could study after taking heroin. Nice for a future head of ALL the health services of this country to be publicly saying.
I don’t think he’s gonna be the future head ….in a perfect world anyway.
People like Elon and Don junior do go to a rehab but the doctors are not doctors and they're released after a good week of rest in a padded room. Trump only sends his best people there. The rest are thrown out a 9th floor window.
Your sources, please?
I know a guy, who knows a guy...!
And voila! 45.
Who are the Republicans backing in 4 years a murderer. These people are just stupid, that's why they voted for trump, someone just like them.
There is no possible way in
this universe, Musk can ever
measure up to Navalny!
Please don't make that
comparison again.
Musk is a parasite! Feeding
off all those who do the real
work and creativity behind his
billions.
I virtually never support anything Trump or Musk do, but in this case I support the use of the HB-1 visas and I’ll tell you why. I am not a dumb guy. I have two degrees. When I was in a very advanced class that required extensive math skills (at math I am very good), I was blown out of the water by by two Chinese and one Indian by the speed at which they arrived at correct answers. The following statement is not politically correct, but it is true. I was the smartest white guy in the classroom. I did arrive at the correct answers but not as swiftly as these three. That was back in the ‘80s and I believe the primary and secondary education in our country is not nearly as well-rounded or effective as it was then. If we have the opportunity to place people with these visas in positions requiring these high skills, we cannot afford to pass them by and retain our current status.
I had the opposite experience. In my tech world savvy US side people were replaced by less competent people from southeast Asia. One reason: cheap to do.
I sympathize with you. I think the use of the visas should be dependent upon the industry and the ability to find and employ qualified people. I should have made that point in my post. My background is in medicine and there are positions within the vast array of disciplines of medicine where it is hard to attract qualified applicants within the American pool. I don’t think the tech industry as a whole fits that hardship so limits on types and disciplines should be considered.
It's not just cheap; if they lose their jobs, their visa is canceled, and they are deported immediately.
Your personal experience is statistically irrelevant and a vast overgeneralization. I do agree that US public education desperately needs an overhaul. We are not graduating people with the knowledge or skills they need to be successful.
Disagree with now Musk needs trump statement. trump needs Musk to keep his mouth shut about what he knows about trump. trump is screwed if he doesn't.
Read yesterday on Bluesky about Musk's ketamine addiction. This guy is going to wind up institutionalized or dead.
I know which one I’m hoping for.
me too.
ditto.
One can only hope! Although from our standpoint it’s better for us if he sticks around to rile up the base AGAINST President Trumusk!
That part 😵