The US and El Salvador have an extradition treaty and SCOTUS could have issued a writ of mandamus to Trump/Rubio to extradite him -- but didn't. 9-0! What about the 3 Dems?
I don't know whether the judge was asked to enter an order of mandamus. At SCOTUS, could have been done sua sponte, own motion, by one of the Dems.
A writ of mandamus is a court order compelling a lower court, government official, or agency to perform a specific act that they are legally obligated to do. It's used when there's no other adequate legal remedy to force compliance with a clear legal duty. In essence, it's a way to ensure that those in authority follow the law and fulfill their official duties.
Lovely. However, they were paid, or did you forget? They are paid to destroy the deports we send to El Salvador. someone posted 6000$ for every 300 trafficked humans.
Regardless of whether our courts (or more specifically, some judges) are corrupt — which is a separate discussion — the courts in this case have followed the law. It is the corrupt Trump Administration that is flouting the courts’ rulings.
Inpeachment and removal is the only recourse. The Constitution states the entire Administration shall be impeached and removed for treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors (Article 2, Section 4).
LOL! what Constitution? This is a coup, not a garden party! They have all been paid off to allow orange shit britches to do exactly what he is doing. And we DO NOT have an administration! Only Musk and Trump goons. Who will impeach them our corrupt Supreme Court justices who have already been paid off! You need to start reading how Trump wants to deport US citizens who do not fall in line with his corruption. We will be victims of genocide if this continues.
THAT is exactly WHY the cowardly REPUBS in Congress need to find their backbones and IMPEACH AND REMOVE them all immediately! Or do you prefer another war between the States?
Blue states may be forced to secede. Maybe we can unite with California to form a new country without the Deep South. We can renegotiate the end of the Civil war.
I think jail time is the only stick that would work(there is no room for carrots with this group). If it was just a fine, they wouldn't be the ones paying it; the people of the US would be.
LOL! No, I'm not paying for their BS fines! The money will come out of OUR pockets! Hang them like past dictators and treasonous bastards! fine them...seriously? There are no laws for them except for you and me!
Sorry, but I disagree. Dead like the past traitors and dictators of the world. You think Musk and Trump can't buy their way out? US citizens are next, keep reading.
Perhaps an immediate contempt of court ruling with the govt attorney taken directly from the courtroom to a jail cell until that lawyer agreed to conform to the ethical rules of attorneys & officers of the court and answer the judge’s questions directly and honestly. One lawyer after another incarcerated until we essentially have another version of a “Saturday night Massacre” where all litigation attorneys resign rather be sent to jail for disobeying and disrespecting the court’s authority.
Remember, such a jailing leaves the key to the jail cell in the lawyers’ hands. All they need do is follow the law to be released.
Disbarment normally is done by a private Board of Bar Overseers, not the government. Since Trump has now gone after the American Bar Association, the various state (and federal) Boards may have a bit more incentive (and backbone) to take action against corrupt-acting attorneys. It’s not a quick process though (see, e.g., the disbarment of Giuliani)
So the obnoxious obese orangey claims such breathtaking deal making skills yet is unable to move the ball at all and get Garcia back (even if it’s in a casket). That was one roomful of evil liars.
Both those so called leaders need removal and international charges of crimes against humanity filed.
He’s not exactly here “legally”, but a court did rule that he can’t be extradited back to El Salvador quite a few years ago and he has not been shown to have done anything but lead a model life since then.
You think our corrupt government is going to impeach and remove Trump and Musk? Where is the laugh button! ain't gonna happen. We need Mercs to do the job because we are not fit and able to such a deed! Where are all the other dictators of the past?
UPDATE: Trump just met with Bukele and reiterated that he had no power to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States. Bukele said he had no intention of returning Abrego Garcia.
And then Trump claimed that the Supreme Court had ruled 9–0 in his favor on the case and that the Court’s decision meant only that the U.S. government would have to provide a plane if Bukele chose to return Abrego Garcia.
So Trump not only refuses to comply with the Roberts ruling, but he has now completely mischaracterized it.
LOL! How's that pie in the sky working out for you. They will do NOTHING! Genocide ring any bells! Trump is calling for it! Keep reading! I posted his "hot mic" all over Bluesky.
Either Mr. Garcia is dead, or they don't want him returning and reporting on the hellish conditions in the prison. Shame on SCOTUS. They are putting everyone at risk, citizen or not.
I am still so angry at the racism and bigotry at the core of the rapey felon 47 voters and the catastrophic consequences of their stupidity. They are what is the root cause of the cancerous rot and America’s decline. But they are so stupid and ignorant regarding how government, finance, and government programs work that they are willingly on the Titanic, heading for the mother of all icebergs. And let’s be honest, non -magat voters (including the “one issue “ voters)who chose the rapey felon or didn’t vote due to whatever reasons are also complicit. We need a serious re-education regarding basics of civics (not in vague terms but elementary levels) so that Americans can understand specifically what programs and institutions republicans are trying to destroy and the subsequent harm to all of us.
Garcia has become a bell weather for Trump to test the boundaries. Once Garcia is forgotten about, and who could be faulted for forgetting a single issue in the disgusting myriad of episodes Trump is creating, how many more will endure Garcia’s fate, regardless of citizenship?
He had an order not to be returned to El Salvador. He was returned to El Salvador. The DOJ attorney admitted before Judge Xinis that it was an error. It’s as plain as day.
IF he is indeed a gang member (of any gang), the government simply has to prove that in a court of law and deport him. At that point, I don’t know whether the earlier court ruling that he can’t be deported back to El Salvador would stand, but the government could deport him elsewhere, regardless.
But first, the Constitution requires basic Due Process that the Trump administration just ignored and continues to ignore.
I’m not as knowledgeable about this as you, but my understanding is that PRUCOL is a temporary status allowing access to certain benefits (e.g., Medicaid) but once that person receives a green card to work legally — which I believe Garcia has — that person is no longer under PRUCOL.
No one seems to understand the answer is very simple. They don’t want anyone to come out of that prison who could then talk about their experience. Administration is terrified of Garcia back in America.
Public hanging like Mussolini for Trump, Musk and all treasonous bastards! We are too easy, too soft and how we came to be "this" with two lunatics running our country.
So many questions. How much is the US paying for the prison in El Salvador to incarcerate those 200+ prisoners? How many of those in the government are profiting from investments in private prisons like this? What happened to the law about making a profit on items while you are a President, such as his hats (made in CHINA); his golf club covers (made in CHINA) and so much more. Who is watching the spending and the profiteering of this? We now have a shadow government and no one seems to know much about where the "saved" money is going or gone to, as well as so much profiting on every bit of merchandising. Well, there is so much more but the American people need more information on all of this and if it is legal.
How is the that the world's "best negotiator" cannot negotiate the return of Garcia to the US? Even the salvadoran monster is giving him the finger.....
As part of a $1.4 billion loan agreed with the International Monetary Fund in December, the government’s involvement with the digital Chivo wallet will be “gradually unwound.” At the end of January, on a vote of 55-2, El Salvador’s Legislative Assembly passed modifications to the Bitcoin law, eliminating the word “currency” but keeping it legal tender. The changes will take effect May 1, 90 days after the legislation appeared in the official newspaper.
“Bitcoin no longer has the strength of legal tender,” economist Rafael Lemus told AFP. “It should have always been that way, but the government tried to force it into existence, and it didn’t work.”
Users are now free to accept Bitcoin or not, but it cannot be used to pay taxes or state bills. President Nayib Bukele admitted that introducing Bitcoin as an official currency alongside the US dollar in September 2021—the world’s first such move—had been his government’s “most unpopular” measure, alongside stringent anti-gang security measures.
El Salvador still has 688 Bitcoin in reserve, worth an estimated $574 million, of which $287 million is profit.
On February 13, Bukele and Microstrategy Executive Chairman Michael Saylor discussed how Bitcoin adoption could be accelerated worldwide, with El Salvador’s National Bitcoin Office considering establishing nodes in each household. The aim was to boost public perception of how Bitcoin can work in daily settings.
“President Bukele continues to buy Bitcoin, we have a Bitcoin Office, we have the Bitcoin Law, Bitcoin can be used in El Salvador,” El Salvador’s ambassador to the US, Milena Mayorga, assured at a Bitcoin conference.” But, “it has not been an easy road.” A survey published by the Jesuit Central American University in January revealed 92% of Salvadorans had not used Bitcoin in 2024. Of the 8% who said they had done so, the average was only 14 times a year. Family remittances via digital wallets amounted to $7.22 million in December 2024, less than 1% of the total sent.
When is the DOJ going to be held in contempt? Someone needs to go to jail for this or it will keep happening.
The US and El Salvador have an extradition treaty and SCOTUS could have issued a writ of mandamus to Trump/Rubio to extradite him -- but didn't. 9-0! What about the 3 Dems?
I don't know whether the judge was asked to enter an order of mandamus. At SCOTUS, could have been done sua sponte, own motion, by one of the Dems.
A writ of mandamus is a court order compelling a lower court, government official, or agency to perform a specific act that they are legally obligated to do. It's used when there's no other adequate legal remedy to force compliance with a clear legal duty. In essence, it's a way to ensure that those in authority follow the law and fulfill their official duties.
Lovely. However, they were paid, or did you forget? They are paid to destroy the deports we send to El Salvador. someone posted 6000$ for every 300 trafficked humans.
Regardless of whether our courts (or more specifically, some judges) are corrupt — which is a separate discussion — the courts in this case have followed the law. It is the corrupt Trump Administration that is flouting the courts’ rulings.
Not an issue before the court.
What court? Our corrupt courts?
When is the orangutan going to be held in contempt is the more appropriate response to this egregious act of defiance against a SCOTUS directive!
Inpeachment and removal is the only recourse. The Constitution states the entire Administration shall be impeached and removed for treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors (Article 2, Section 4).
LOL! what Constitution? This is a coup, not a garden party! They have all been paid off to allow orange shit britches to do exactly what he is doing. And we DO NOT have an administration! Only Musk and Trump goons. Who will impeach them our corrupt Supreme Court justices who have already been paid off! You need to start reading how Trump wants to deport US citizens who do not fall in line with his corruption. We will be victims of genocide if this continues.
THAT is exactly WHY the cowardly REPUBS in Congress need to find their backbones and IMPEACH AND REMOVE them all immediately! Or do you prefer another war between the States?
Blue states may be forced to secede. Maybe we can unite with California to form a new country without the Deep South. We can renegotiate the end of the Civil war.
They are not the *only* recourse.
Never.
I think jail time is the only stick that would work(there is no room for carrots with this group). If it was just a fine, they wouldn't be the ones paying it; the people of the US would be.
I like daily fines that double to infinity.
LOL! No, I'm not paying for their BS fines! The money will come out of OUR pockets! Hang them like past dictators and treasonous bastards! fine them...seriously? There are no laws for them except for you and me!
I like the guillotine method too. Very effective for the French.
The only way! oblong boxes Trump and Musk first! Freeze and seize ALL their assets so they can't hide from us!
Sorry, but I disagree. Dead like the past traitors and dictators of the world. You think Musk and Trump can't buy their way out? US citizens are next, keep reading.
Perhaps an immediate contempt of court ruling with the govt attorney taken directly from the courtroom to a jail cell until that lawyer agreed to conform to the ethical rules of attorneys & officers of the court and answer the judge’s questions directly and honestly. One lawyer after another incarcerated until we essentially have another version of a “Saturday night Massacre” where all litigation attorneys resign rather be sent to jail for disobeying and disrespecting the court’s authority.
Remember, such a jailing leaves the key to the jail cell in the lawyers’ hands. All they need do is follow the law to be released.
Bondi Barbie needs to be held in contempt, and jailed.
We have no DoJ! We have no government but a corrupt and paid-off Congress and the supreme court justices. it all has to be burned down!
Drumpf's legal flunkies need to be disbarred.
And who is going to do it with this paid and corrupt govt?
Disbarment normally is done by a private Board of Bar Overseers, not the government. Since Trump has now gone after the American Bar Association, the various state (and federal) Boards may have a bit more incentive (and backbone) to take action against corrupt-acting attorneys. It’s not a quick process though (see, e.g., the disbarment of Giuliani)
Let's hope for the best. Yeah, Trump the crime boss threw Rudy under the bus like he does anyone in contact with him.
So the obnoxious obese orangey claims such breathtaking deal making skills yet is unable to move the ball at all and get Garcia back (even if it’s in a casket). That was one roomful of evil liars.
Both those so called leaders need removal and international charges of crimes against humanity filed.
I feel shame for America.
I could barely stand to listen to it. Trump's same old playbook; brag, insult Biden, brag, insult the press, brag, lie, smirk, repeat. 🤮
They all lied about Garcia! He’s never been convicted of anything and was here legally! Isn’t what Bondi, Miller and Rubio all said libelous?
He’s not exactly here “legally”, but a court did rule that he can’t be extradited back to El Salvador quite a few years ago and he has not been shown to have done anything but lead a model life since then.
When does this become an impeachable offense that can no longer be ignored? Are we there yet?
No, we do not yet have enough senators to impeach.
we don't even have the House to begin the impeachment process
Same. Please check out Feathers of Hope. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
Martha, I love you but read Feathers of Hope and \get back to us. https://jerryweiss.substack.com/
Window of opporunity opens with tariffs, but IMHO national security issue. Who signed up to be part of an axis of evil?
You think our corrupt government is going to impeach and remove Trump and Musk? Where is the laugh button! ain't gonna happen. We need Mercs to do the job because we are not fit and able to such a deed! Where are all the other dictators of the past?
D-E-A-D!
It was a facetious question dear. It’s an ugly situation indeed.
He must be stopped, and we must have a plan to govern. If we don’t fill the void, someone else will…
UPDATE: Trump just met with Bukele and reiterated that he had no power to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States. Bukele said he had no intention of returning Abrego Garcia.
And then Trump claimed that the Supreme Court had ruled 9–0 in his favor on the case and that the Court’s decision meant only that the U.S. government would have to provide a plane if Bukele chose to return Abrego Garcia.
So Trump not only refuses to comply with the Roberts ruling, but he has now completely mischaracterized it.
What will the Supreme Court do in response?
I saw it too....what El Presidente said is he hasn't been asked.
It's up to the USDC to issue a mandamius. We do extradition all the time. .
LOL! How's that pie in the sky working out for you. They will do NOTHING! Genocide ring any bells! Trump is calling for it! Keep reading! I posted his "hot mic" all over Bluesky.
Whose side are you on?
The United States of America. Trump has ignored any court orders so far. Why don't you send him a basket of edible fruit.
They will do nothing. As usual.
Two Despicable Dictators
Take heart. All past dictators are dead. there is your hope and solution.
Dictators still very much alive: Kim, Xi, Putin, Orban, Erdoğan, MBS, to name just a few.
My lexicon of invectives needs to be augmented.
Monsters.
Either Mr. Garcia is dead, or they don't want him returning and reporting on the hellish conditions in the prison. Shame on SCOTUS. They are putting everyone at risk, citizen or not.
Likely he is dead already
I am still so angry at the racism and bigotry at the core of the rapey felon 47 voters and the catastrophic consequences of their stupidity. They are what is the root cause of the cancerous rot and America’s decline. But they are so stupid and ignorant regarding how government, finance, and government programs work that they are willingly on the Titanic, heading for the mother of all icebergs. And let’s be honest, non -magat voters (including the “one issue “ voters)who chose the rapey felon or didn’t vote due to whatever reasons are also complicit. We need a serious re-education regarding basics of civics (not in vague terms but elementary levels) so that Americans can understand specifically what programs and institutions republicans are trying to destroy and the subsequent harm to all of us.
The Titanic sank last night 113 years ago, April 14, 11:40 pm/15, 2:20 am, 1912.
100%
Garcia has become a bell weather for Trump to test the boundaries. Once Garcia is forgotten about, and who could be faulted for forgetting a single issue in the disgusting myriad of episodes Trump is creating, how many more will endure Garcia’s fate, regardless of citizenship?
Garcia was here illegally..he knew it. He should have left on his own free will..while he had the chance.
He had an order of non-removal from an immigration judge. That’s perfectly legal and he should not have been deported.
Need to read the order. Issue was return to El Salvador.
He had an order not to be returned to El Salvador. He was returned to El Salvador. The DOJ attorney admitted before Judge Xinis that it was an error. It’s as plain as day.
Just El Salvador. Can send him elsewhere, anyplace that will take him.
But he is in El Salvador and Bukele has said he will not be released. I don’t know why you’re arguing this point.
Maybe that was before they realized he was ms13. Still he was here in the US illegally. And he isn't coming back.
He is not a gang member this was already adjudicated back in 2019. Just because it suits your narrative to claim he’s in a gang doesn’t make it true.
F'k off you MAGA GARBAGE! a concerned citizen my ass! You are SHIT!
IF he is indeed a gang member (of any gang), the government simply has to prove that in a court of law and deport him. At that point, I don’t know whether the earlier court ruling that he can’t be deported back to El Salvador would stand, but the government could deport him elsewhere, regardless.
But first, the Constitution requires basic Due Process that the Trump administration just ignored and continues to ignore.
False argument.
The U. S. Constitution applies to ALL persons in the U. S.
Denying due process to anyone denies due process to everyone.
So, watch your back. You may be next.
All people here under color of law. PRUCOL jurisdiction. Proof under color of law.
I’m not as knowledgeable about this as you, but my understanding is that PRUCOL is a temporary status allowing access to certain benefits (e.g., Medicaid) but once that person receives a green card to work legally — which I believe Garcia has — that person is no longer under PRUCOL.
Goes to jurisdiction. Here's a little history. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/posner-calls-immigration-court-least-competent-agency
No, he was not, dumb azz! What are you, part of the Trump genocide club!
Please let us refrain from ad hominem attacks. Hopefully, those here are better than that.
No one seems to understand the answer is very simple. They don’t want anyone to come out of that prison who could then talk about their experience. Administration is terrified of Garcia back in America.
Everyone of the conspirators -Vance, Bondi, Trump and DOJ should be charged and tried in the illegal seizure and kidnapping of Abrego Garcia
100%
Grotesque is exactly the right word. This is a human sacrifice on the altar of trump. How many more before he is stopped?
Make it a nail in his coffin?
Public hanging like Mussolini for Trump, Musk and all treasonous bastards! We are too easy, too soft and how we came to be "this" with two lunatics running our country.
So many questions. How much is the US paying for the prison in El Salvador to incarcerate those 200+ prisoners? How many of those in the government are profiting from investments in private prisons like this? What happened to the law about making a profit on items while you are a President, such as his hats (made in CHINA); his golf club covers (made in CHINA) and so much more. Who is watching the spending and the profiteering of this? We now have a shadow government and no one seems to know much about where the "saved" money is going or gone to, as well as so much profiting on every bit of merchandising. Well, there is so much more but the American people need more information on all of this and if it is legal.
“How much is the US paying for the prison in El Salvador to incarcerate those 200+ prisoners?”
$6Million/year
How is the that the world's "best negotiator" cannot negotiate the return of Garcia to the US? Even the salvadoran monster is giving him the finger.....
The “salvadoran monster” (as you call him) is NOT giving Mr Trump “the finger”. They are cooperating in this as partners in the crime.
Ans he doesn't have to.
Because he already accepted the pay off to take these prisoners!
It's worse. Part of cryptoscam.
El Salvador’s heralded adoption of Bitcoin as legal tender appears to be undergoing a significant downgrade as businesses are no longer obliged to accept the cryptocurrency. https://gfmag.com/economics-policy-regulation/el-salvador-drops-bitcoin-legal-tender/
As part of a $1.4 billion loan agreed with the International Monetary Fund in December, the government’s involvement with the digital Chivo wallet will be “gradually unwound.” At the end of January, on a vote of 55-2, El Salvador’s Legislative Assembly passed modifications to the Bitcoin law, eliminating the word “currency” but keeping it legal tender. The changes will take effect May 1, 90 days after the legislation appeared in the official newspaper.
“Bitcoin no longer has the strength of legal tender,” economist Rafael Lemus told AFP. “It should have always been that way, but the government tried to force it into existence, and it didn’t work.”
Users are now free to accept Bitcoin or not, but it cannot be used to pay taxes or state bills. President Nayib Bukele admitted that introducing Bitcoin as an official currency alongside the US dollar in September 2021—the world’s first such move—had been his government’s “most unpopular” measure, alongside stringent anti-gang security measures.
El Salvador still has 688 Bitcoin in reserve, worth an estimated $574 million, of which $287 million is profit.
On February 13, Bukele and Microstrategy Executive Chairman Michael Saylor discussed how Bitcoin adoption could be accelerated worldwide, with El Salvador’s National Bitcoin Office considering establishing nodes in each household. The aim was to boost public perception of how Bitcoin can work in daily settings.
“President Bukele continues to buy Bitcoin, we have a Bitcoin Office, we have the Bitcoin Law, Bitcoin can be used in El Salvador,” El Salvador’s ambassador to the US, Milena Mayorga, assured at a Bitcoin conference.” But, “it has not been an easy road.” A survey published by the Jesuit Central American University in January revealed 92% of Salvadorans had not used Bitcoin in 2024. Of the 8% who said they had done so, the average was only 14 times a year. Family remittances via digital wallets amounted to $7.22 million in December 2024, less than 1% of the total sent.