We are a lawless country now, I guess? If you can get away with the things this man has done, there is no justice at all. This should outrage every American. Especially any American who has been scammed by a criminal like this. To just let him get by with it like that? Ask yourself, why would trump do that? I'll tell you why, because birds of a feather..., that's why!
Nixon should never have been pardoned. Trump should never have sailed through his first impeachment much less his second. Yes, we are now a lawless country and law enforcement begins and ends at the top.
I did too and lived in DC and in retrospect Ford made the right move. I don’t agree it set the stage for corruption, and I don’t even know what that means.
When I was born, FDR was President, there were 48 stars on the flag and decent women had visible seams in their nylon stockings to prove their legs were properly covered. Did I live through the Nixon years? I voted for the bastard because I didn’t know any better. That may have been my one and only republican vote ever, now that I think about it.
Then I'm older than you. I remember how liberating seamless hose were when introduced. No more crooked seams worries! But my shameful lone Republican vote too was for Nixon. It took JFK's first months in office to unteach what I had learned at my granny's knee, that a Catholic president would move Pope Pius XII into the WH. … And go for it, NY! Santos deserves to serve every day of his sentence. What great foresight, the Manafort law.
Having seen the shocked effect when I say the number I don't, but just between us, yes, I'm older. Yeah, outliving him is a real motivation to stay healthy.
Stockings were seamless by the time I was old enough to wear them. I was in high school when JFK was elected so I wasn't old enough to vote. But I well remember all the talk about him and the Pope which I thought was ridiculous.(and look what we have now). When I was old enough to vote I registered as a Democrat but I may have voted for Nixon. I really can't remember but I wanted Vietnam over. Haven't voted Republican since unless it was for a local or state office. Poor Gerald. I try to believe he was doing what he thought was best for the country and the nicest thing I can say is "poor Gerald".
JFK-Nixon was my first presidential election. Ashamed as I am of my vote, I had registered Dem because I'd moved to NY and understood the dominance\ of primaries. By the time Nixon was elected pres, I was traveling to D.C. to protest his inaugurals. 'Unleash Chaing' was our sign one year, mocking the defeated leader Nixon supported.
I think that he will be sending some crypto Trump’s way when he gets the next scam going and that all the pardons and commutations are for future profit. Just one more.
Yes! And if Santos is found guilty on stste charges, he should be ordered to pay back the money he flim-flammed out of people and serve at least the same amount of time as he would've in a federal jail.
DO IT! Anything we can do to make crimes still be punished, we should do. There are far too many criminals allowed to get away with their dirty deeds already.
Just an example of the morals and ethics of the current administration which explains a lot:
“Trump did not pretend that Santos had been unfairly charged or convicted. On the contrary, in discussing the commutation, Trump said that Santos was “somewhat of a rogue”. . . . Santos had the “Courage, Conviction, and Intelligence to ALWAYS VOTE REPUBLICAN!”
Earlier, explaining that he was considering commuting Santos’s sentence, Trump said Santos “lied like hell, but he was 100 percent for Trump” during his few months in Congress.
NY do what you can or since he is a convicted criminal, perhaps he should be deported!
“the distinction of being the most shameless thief and prolific fraudster ever …” is Donald Trump , who has been convicted as a fraud, among other things, Santos is his alter ego, hence his prison time was commuted. They are two of a kind, as those associated with Trump are like him.
I hope he will be held accountable for the crimes he committed that aren’t federal crimes and get him sent right back to prison where he belongs. Donald Trump is a pro criminal president
I'm pretty sure Trump has no idea that Santos represents everything Trump hates - Santos is gay, married to another guy, a drag queen, and a child of Brazilllian immigrants.
Thanks for the clear explanation. I had assumed double jeopardy and all was lost. I’m glad that NY had the foresight to have put this into a law that spells out what is available to them. So much blatant corruption on both of their parts. Not paying restitution to those he defrauded is just the final slap in the face to his victims. His “rehabilitation” on Sunday talk shows is disgusting.
Old timers like me are, of course, horrified to see Trump replace the rule of law with the rule of fealty. What's even worse, my twenty-something kids are too inexperienced to fully grasp how utterly un-American and unprecedented this stuff is. Like so many other features of the world according to Trump, their lack of historical context makes it appear almost mundane.
Yes, NEW York prosecute! At least get the money back to the victims. If I was a victim, I would sue, or want someone to Sue for me!!!! This just pisses me off - During a government shut-down, thousands are loosing their jobs and this fucking coin-operated felon let's this idiot go and erases him having to pay back the victims...and of course, the felon cowardly does it late Friday night...he was busy this weekend or I should say Fucking Miller was busy, "pooping" on Americans, bombing boats, not giving Ukraine missiles, giving Argentina more money, But I am asking like most of us are, what does the coin-operated conman get in return?????
We are a lawless country now, I guess? If you can get away with the things this man has done, there is no justice at all. This should outrage every American. Especially any American who has been scammed by a criminal like this. To just let him get by with it like that? Ask yourself, why would trump do that? I'll tell you why, because birds of a feather..., that's why!
Nixon should never have been pardoned. Trump should never have sailed through his first impeachment much less his second. Yes, we are now a lawless country and law enforcement begins and ends at the top.
Re your Nixon comment, I’m wondering if you lived through those times.
I did and I agree with Lois: Nixon should NEVER have been pardoned. That set the stage for even MORE corruption.
I did too and lived in DC and in retrospect Ford made the right move. I don’t agree it set the stage for corruption, and I don’t even know what that means.
Bless your heart.
When I was born, FDR was President, there were 48 stars on the flag and decent women had visible seams in their nylon stockings to prove their legs were properly covered. Did I live through the Nixon years? I voted for the bastard because I didn’t know any better. That may have been my one and only republican vote ever, now that I think about it.
Then I'm older than you. I remember how liberating seamless hose were when introduced. No more crooked seams worries! But my shameful lone Republican vote too was for Nixon. It took JFK's first months in office to unteach what I had learned at my granny's knee, that a Catholic president would move Pope Pius XII into the WH. … And go for it, NY! Santos deserves to serve every day of his sentence. What great foresight, the Manafort law.
I’m in my mid 80s. You’re older? I hope we both live to see what his name under the ground.
Having seen the shocked effect when I say the number I don't, but just between us, yes, I'm older. Yeah, outliving him is a real motivation to stay healthy.
Me too!
Stockings were seamless by the time I was old enough to wear them. I was in high school when JFK was elected so I wasn't old enough to vote. But I well remember all the talk about him and the Pope which I thought was ridiculous.(and look what we have now). When I was old enough to vote I registered as a Democrat but I may have voted for Nixon. I really can't remember but I wanted Vietnam over. Haven't voted Republican since unless it was for a local or state office. Poor Gerald. I try to believe he was doing what he thought was best for the country and the nicest thing I can say is "poor Gerald".
Pardoning Nixon looked like a healing gesture at the time. In hindsight, it set a disastrous precedent.
JFK-Nixon was my first presidential election. Ashamed as I am of my vote, I had registered Dem because I'd moved to NY and understood the dominance\ of primaries. By the time Nixon was elected pres, I was traveling to D.C. to protest his inaugurals. 'Unleash Chaing' was our sign one year, mocking the defeated leader Nixon supported.
Garter belts and sanitary belts in the same week 🙄
I did. Comparing Nixon and Trump-Nixon committed a misdemeanor and Trump is a serial killer. I cannot stand being near a Republican anymore.
I did; I'm 83 years old now and I always felt that he should not have been pardoned.
I think that he will be sending some crypto Trump’s way when he gets the next scam going and that all the pardons and commutations are for future profit. Just one more.
New York should definitely prosecute!
Yes! And if Santos is found guilty on stste charges, he should be ordered to pay back the money he flim-flammed out of people and serve at least the same amount of time as he would've in a federal jail.
Exactly!
Re your Nixon comment, I’m wondering if you lived through those times.
One of the best articles I’ve read in a long time. Thank you for pointing this out. Go for it New York!!!!
DO IT! Anything we can do to make crimes still be punished, we should do. There are far too many criminals allowed to get away with their dirty deeds already.
Just an example of the morals and ethics of the current administration which explains a lot:
“Trump did not pretend that Santos had been unfairly charged or convicted. On the contrary, in discussing the commutation, Trump said that Santos was “somewhat of a rogue”. . . . Santos had the “Courage, Conviction, and Intelligence to ALWAYS VOTE REPUBLICAN!”
Earlier, explaining that he was considering commuting Santos’s sentence, Trump said Santos “lied like hell, but he was 100 percent for Trump” during his few months in Congress.
NY do what you can or since he is a convicted criminal, perhaps he should be deported!
Do Republican & Intelligence ever go together in the same sentence?
Good one.
After he serves his sentence!!
LOCK HIM UP NEW YORK! LOCK HIM UP
“the distinction of being the most shameless thief and prolific fraudster ever …” is Donald Trump , who has been convicted as a fraud, among other things, Santos is his alter ego, hence his prison time was commuted. They are two of a kind, as those associated with Trump are like him.
I hope he will be held accountable for the crimes he committed that aren’t federal crimes and get him sent right back to prison where he belongs. Donald Trump is a pro criminal president
They should absolutely undo this!!!❤️
Absolutely. Let's get him back in jail.
Where he and SO MANY OTHERS belong!
I hope my home Empire State can do this Harry, and that they will do it, and make it so Trump can’t do anything about it!
Go on New York. Put the little mfer away again and force the payment from him.
I'm pretty sure Trump has no idea that Santos represents everything Trump hates - Santos is gay, married to another guy, a drag queen, and a child of Brazilllian immigrants.
Thanks for the clear explanation. I had assumed double jeopardy and all was lost. I’m glad that NY had the foresight to have put this into a law that spells out what is available to them. So much blatant corruption on both of their parts. Not paying restitution to those he defrauded is just the final slap in the face to his victims. His “rehabilitation” on Sunday talk shows is disgusting.
Old timers like me are, of course, horrified to see Trump replace the rule of law with the rule of fealty. What's even worse, my twenty-something kids are too inexperienced to fully grasp how utterly un-American and unprecedented this stuff is. Like so many other features of the world according to Trump, their lack of historical context makes it appear almost mundane.
None of this is normal. That needs to be impressed upon the younger generations.
Wow!
Do it NYS!!!
Yes, NEW York prosecute! At least get the money back to the victims. If I was a victim, I would sue, or want someone to Sue for me!!!! This just pisses me off - During a government shut-down, thousands are loosing their jobs and this fucking coin-operated felon let's this idiot go and erases him having to pay back the victims...and of course, the felon cowardly does it late Friday night...he was busy this weekend or I should say Fucking Miller was busy, "pooping" on Americans, bombing boats, not giving Ukraine missiles, giving Argentina more money, But I am asking like most of us are, what does the coin-operated conman get in return?????